1. 1. Apologies:
   Neil Vernon (UCATT), Susan Murray (UNITE), Dave Beresford (NAHT), Patrick Bennett (NUT)

1. 2. Notes/actions from last meeting:
   item 10: Lofstedt review – all unions to monitor and report back.item 11: Asbestos Related RPF – to go on JUAC websiteitem 13: AOB Valued workers award – NG to ask for a progress reportThe notes/actions from last meeting were approved as a true and accurate record.

1. 3. Matters arising from notes not covered elsewhere on this agenda:

Updates given on what meetings/presentations colleagues attended since last JUAC meeting.

Agreed: log be kept of future meetings and scripts to be shared

NG reported he will he attending a meeting on 25^th May 2012

JDW reported she will be attending a meeting on 20^th March 2012

1. 4. Chair’s Actions:

Stand at Hazards Conference for JUAC has been booked from 30^th August 2012 for 3 days

1. 5. JUAC Website:

5.1: All agreed current content

5.2: All agreed for a redacted version of JUAC minutes be prepared for the website
All agreed for the Asbestos Victims Support Group Forum UK to be invited to submit content.

5.3: Entering legal cases from individual unions onto the JUAC website was agreed subject to appropriate permissions

Other ideas for website were: examples of good practice (eg Nottinghamshire), which could coincide with the DfE website was agreed.

All to action if appropriate.

ML to action.

1. 6. Global Asbestos Congress 2013 report:

JMcC reported that the above congress had stalled due to difficulties; especially around funding.

1. 7. AiS:
   7.1: DfE update: ML reported

All agreed for this to form thrust of APPG inquiry

7.2: ML reported on DfE response letter to AiS & JUAC’s request regarding HSE guidance OC265/48 be withdrawn and pro-active inspections be reinstated

7.3: APPG booklet now on JUAC website.
Agreed: that the 6 objectives within the booklet should be the starting point for the APPG Inquiry agenda, any further ideas to be forwarded to ML.

Also that a thank you letter to be sent to Tony Whitson for his support for AIS within the APPG.

7.4 CoC – ML & JW gave update from last meeting and confirmed that the CoC were looking at exposure to asbestos in schools only and not overall risks (eg homes etc).
Agreed: AIS and JUAC to send letter to CoC which should include the following: look into deaths of school teachers/ask why certain experts were not included on panel/ challenge the evidence upon which the decision will be made and remind COC of the TORs (Relative vulnerability rather than susceptibility of children to asbestos).

7.5 DfE asbestos e-learning report – write to DfE to ensure we are not excluded from consultation and development

DBe appointed as JUAC coordinating representative on this issue.

SL appointed as JUAC coordinating representative on issue of Specific School Guidance.

7.6 Employer & Public Liability Insurance for asbestos exposure for Academies & Free Schools – ML gave update and confirmed that Academies cannot obtain public liability insurance for asbestos exposure in schools
Agreed: Wait for DfE response regarding this issue and if the answers received are not comprehensive enough then for ML to write to Sally Smith with the leading question ‘who will hold ultimate liability if the school does not get insurance covering asbestos?’

7.7 A trial for widespread air sampling in schools – ML gave update from DfE meeting. It was agreed that the paper for air sampling needs updating before APPG.

ML informed JUAC that he is seeing a company which manufactures a piece of equipment that can take fibre levels and produces a reading at a very competitive price.

AOB: The DfE provided in confidence a draft copy of “Leadership of Health and Safety in Schools Report”.

Agreed: JUAC to write to DfE requesting that the report be in the public domain as it would be of great interest to our members.

All to forward ideas to ML.

JW to draft thank you letter.

ML/JDW to action.

JW to draft

DBe/SG to action

SL to action

ML to action

ML & JMcC to report back at next meeting

JW to draft letter

1. 8. DfE Public Consultation on Standards for a School Premises:
   Response now on JUAC website.

1. 9. Ongoing Objectives for 2012:

JW gave progress report on all current objectives.

Note: If no response from Gerry Sutcliffe regarding arranging a meeting between JUAC and Stephen Twigg then write direct to Stephen.

Reminder: all to ask Gen Sec’s to write individually to Nick Gibb supporting the APPG booklet, once done to forward letter to JW for website.