24th April 2012

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Present: Julie Winn (Chair) John McClean (GMB) David Brierley (Voice)

Nick Green (UNISON) Jacqui O’Neill (ATL) Patrick Bennett (NUT)

Michael Lees (AiS) Sara Gadzik (ASCL) Dave Beresford (NAHT)

Bob Johnson (NASUWT) Donna Buttle (notes)

 

Agenda item:

Action:

  1. 1. Apologies:Neil Vernon (UCATT), Susan Murray (UNITE), Sarah Lyons (NUT)
    Sarah Gadzik joined the meeting late.

 

  1. 2. Notes/actions from last meeting:Item 2: Lofstedt ReviewItem 3: NG attended School Committee Meeting and will distribute notes/report to JUACThrough his UNISON colleague NG gave update on Academies and his concerns regarding key concerns of who the employer is around H&S and asbestos issue.BJ informed JUAC of the need to be aware of the School Funding issue which will need to be taken into account along with the James Report.Item 4: Hazards Conference, NG has confirmed JUAC’s place at Hazards and that JUAC will be involved in an Information Meeting.
    AGREED: JUAC Hazards sub group to be set up to organiseChange to notes of 21st February 2012
    Item 7.5: DfE Asbestos e-learning – DBe is now the appointed JUAC representative on this issue 

NG & JW to action

JW, JMcC & NG to action

JW & DBu to action

  1. 3. Matters arising from notes not covered elsewhere on this agenda:

JW brought to meeting for approval onto the JUAC website the redacted notes
AGREED – redacted notes be signed off at each meeting for website.

JW to action

  1. 4. Chair’s Actions:None outstanding
  1. 5. JUAC Website:

    NG confirmed the TUC H&S website is/has been updated and might be good to include that on JUAC website.
  1. 6. GB asbestos in buildings survey:

    JMcC gave update on meeting he attended.AGREED: for JMcC to gain permission if possible to include info link on this subject for inclusion onto JUAC websiteML reported that HSE had published a survey on how well people have managed their asbestos and that the results seem to mirror JUAC on survey.

JMcC & JW to action when/if appropriate

ML to forward link

  1. 7. LAPSO Bill (Legal Aid, Punishment and Sentencing of Offenders Bill)JMcC gave update regarding the situation
    ALL AGREED:
    Major item for JUAC website
    Possibility for it to go on all Union websites
    JUAC press release

 

JW to action

  1. 8. AiS:a) APPG InquiryAGREED: AIS to write directly to Education Select CommitteeGet well wishes to be sent from JUAC to Annette Brookes.b) Insurance Academies – ML reported that the Supreme Court Trigger issue ruling has raised more questions than it answered. Basically, schools outside of LA control cannot obtain public liability insurance, thus leaving open the question of who will have legal liability for each school and if chains fit into the new school structure, who has managerial responsibility there?SG suggested an information campaign around this issuec) DfE e-trainingAGREED: That the training module from the DfE is not fit for purpose. JUAC agreed to set up a sub-group (DBr,DBe, NG, JMcC & PB) to write up recommendations/letter requesting that a new model to be implemented. New recommendations to be submitted to JUAC for sign-off. AGREED: to invite ATAK along to meeting as well. Deadline date for submission is 4th May.d) Exclusion of asbestos from audit – JUAC would like to see relevant info collated on a central management system.
    AGREED: letters of response to go back to Lord Hill.e) Manage or remove – Illogical to exclude asbestos from audit, as there is no proper basis that it is safer to leave it alone. AGREED: Pressure needs to be put on Government and that more evidence/data of poor asbestos management needs to be included; ML to report back on new data systems that might be suitable to efficiently collect data on a central database.

    ML commented on HSE withdrawal of guidance and new more reasonable guidance.

    f) CoC

    g) Lord Hill’s letter to VOICE & JWAGREED: VOICE letter of response to be drawn up.

    h) SARAG offer of petition for AMD – to be brought back on next agenda.

    i) Meeting with Shadow Schools MinisterAGREED: request a meeting with Stephen Twigg

     

ML to speak with Annette Brookes

JW to action

SG & DBe to action

JMcC to organise meeting of sub-group meeting for Wednesday 2nd May

ML to invite members of ATAK along

JW to action for JUAC
ML to ask Annette Brookes to respond also.

JW to write to Lord Hill

DBr to action in line with JW’s letter as above.

JW to action letter.

  1. 9. JUAC Media:

AGREED:
Happy with current arrangements for time being.
JUAC strap line could be included for every unions press office to attach so to raise JUAC profile.
Details of press office contact to be sent to JW

 

JW to write strap line

All to forward to JW

10. Valued Workers Scheme:NG to email to all a document on the above issue. Pilot in Cheshire worth looking at – AGREED: item to be included on next agenda.
11. AOB:NG reminded JUAC about the Memorial Workers Day taking place on Saturday 28th April.JMcC GMB and Unite engaged in Welsh Assembly on NHS cost recovery fund goes to motion on 16th May.JW reported that next Steering Group takes place on either 12th or 13th June.

NG & BJ & SG to attend with JW as stand in.

Date and time of next meeting: Wednesday 27th June at 12.00 noon

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